man.of.mystery@ntlworld.com [YamahaDX]
2018-09-16 10:44:48 UTC
Hi Martin,
I've been having a look at your Yamaha Reface DX Ctrlr panel, which looks very useful, but I seem to have found some mistakes. I haven't looked at every control, but some of the ones I did look at seemed to have mistakes in their sysex formulae.
I'm not at all familiar with editing Ctrlr panels, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but this is how it looks to me. If I'm right, maybe you noticed already and have been working on a newer version?
I downloaded the most recent version available on your site, which is 20180815
In panel mode (clicking the top left corner of your panel to see Panel properties), I see :
panelversionName 20180815
These are the sysex formulae, for the controls I've looked at. I used the "copy to clipboard" icon, next to midiMessageSysexFormula, to copy each one as text/
Op1 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0f LS f7
Op2 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 01 0f LS f7
* Op3 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 02 LS f7 ?? typo?
Op4 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 0f LS f7
Op1 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0e LS f7
* Op2 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0e LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op3 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 0e LS f7
Op4 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 0e LS f7
Op1 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 17 LS f7
Op2 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 01 17 LS f7
Op3 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 17 LS f7
* Op4 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 17 LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op1 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 18 LS f7
* Op2 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 18 LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op3 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 18 LS f7
Op4 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 18 LS f7
If I'm understanding correctly, most of these are errors are caused by copying the control from Op1, but forgetting to update the formula to refer to the correct control. The Op3 LFO PMD is a different problem, and looks like a typo.
Let me know if I'm on the right track. If so, I'll check the rest of the controls and see if I notice anything similar.
On an unrelated note, I found the readability of some of the control names was improved if I changed the dash (hyphen) between the two words to a space. I also found it a bit more readable for me (cheap montor, ageing eyes) if I made all the control labels bold (clicking the B next to componentLabelFont). I can alter these things for myself, on my own copy, of course. I just thought I'd mention it.
Also, I found it a bit of a challenge to work out where to download the panel. Your home page links to ctrlr.org, rather than to the page for it there, and their site is not very easy to navigate. Is the url for your panel on their site not guaranteed to stay the same, perhaps?
On that page of the ctrlr.org website, I still had a bit of trouble working out what to actually download, perhaps just because I'm new to using Ctrlr. There was a link back to a page on your own site, which I found after a few wrong turns.
So, maybe a link from your DX project page to your own page to download it would be good.
Currently, http://refacedx.martintarenskeen.nl/ only seems to link to ctrlr.org, which has a page for your panel here: http://ctrlr.org/69236/ (but I found it hard to see where to actually get the panel), which links back to http://soundmondo.martintarenskeen.nl/ http://soundmondo.martintarenskeen.nl/ - which actually had the download link for the panel.
I'd suggest putting that last link, on your http://refacedx.martintarenskeen.nl DX project page, as well as the link to Ctrlr.org to get the software to use it with.
- Andy
I've been having a look at your Yamaha Reface DX Ctrlr panel, which looks very useful, but I seem to have found some mistakes. I haven't looked at every control, but some of the ones I did look at seemed to have mistakes in their sysex formulae.
I'm not at all familiar with editing Ctrlr panels, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but this is how it looks to me. If I'm right, maybe you noticed already and have been working on a newer version?
I downloaded the most recent version available on your site, which is 20180815
In panel mode (clicking the top left corner of your panel to see Panel properties), I see :
panelversionName 20180815
These are the sysex formulae, for the controls I've looked at. I used the "copy to clipboard" icon, next to midiMessageSysexFormula, to copy each one as text/
Op1 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0f LS f7
Op2 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 01 0f LS f7
* Op3 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 02 LS f7 ?? typo?
Op4 LFO PMD (on/off) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 0f LS f7
Op1 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0e LS f7
* Op2 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 0e LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op3 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 0e LS f7
Op4 LFO AMD (amount) f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 0e LS f7
Op1 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 17 LS f7
Op2 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 01 17 LS f7
Op3 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 17 LS f7
* Op4 Fine f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 17 LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op1 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 18 LS f7
* Op2 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 00 18 LS f7 ?? copy of Op1
Op3 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 02 18 LS f7
Op4 Detune f0 43 10 7f 1c 05 31 03 18 LS f7
If I'm understanding correctly, most of these are errors are caused by copying the control from Op1, but forgetting to update the formula to refer to the correct control. The Op3 LFO PMD is a different problem, and looks like a typo.
Let me know if I'm on the right track. If so, I'll check the rest of the controls and see if I notice anything similar.
On an unrelated note, I found the readability of some of the control names was improved if I changed the dash (hyphen) between the two words to a space. I also found it a bit more readable for me (cheap montor, ageing eyes) if I made all the control labels bold (clicking the B next to componentLabelFont). I can alter these things for myself, on my own copy, of course. I just thought I'd mention it.
Also, I found it a bit of a challenge to work out where to download the panel. Your home page links to ctrlr.org, rather than to the page for it there, and their site is not very easy to navigate. Is the url for your panel on their site not guaranteed to stay the same, perhaps?
On that page of the ctrlr.org website, I still had a bit of trouble working out what to actually download, perhaps just because I'm new to using Ctrlr. There was a link back to a page on your own site, which I found after a few wrong turns.
So, maybe a link from your DX project page to your own page to download it would be good.
Currently, http://refacedx.martintarenskeen.nl/ only seems to link to ctrlr.org, which has a page for your panel here: http://ctrlr.org/69236/ (but I found it hard to see where to actually get the panel), which links back to http://soundmondo.martintarenskeen.nl/ http://soundmondo.martintarenskeen.nl/ - which actually had the download link for the panel.
I'd suggest putting that last link, on your http://refacedx.martintarenskeen.nl DX project page, as well as the link to Ctrlr.org to get the software to use it with.
- Andy